When the rain rolls in, the Patagonia Torrentshell 3L Rain Jacket is your go-to for reliable waterproof protection and all-day comfort. Built with Patagonias H2No Performance Standard 3-layer shell, its lightweight, breathable, and designed to keep you dry through everything from misty mornings to full-blown downpours. The adjustable hood features a laminated visor for extra coverage and can be neatly rolled away when the sun returns. The microfleece-lined neck feels soft against your skin, while the pit zips and storm flaps help you vent heat and block wind when youre on the move. Two roomy handwarmer pockets keep your gear close, and the whole jacket stuffs neatly into its own pocket for easy packing. Made from 100% recycled nylon with a PFAS-free water-repellent finish and sewn in a Fair Trade Certified factory, its a tough, technical jacket made for wet-weather adventures on land or sea. Care Instructions: Machine wash warm. Do not bleach. Tumble dry low. Cool iron.
When the rain rolls in, the Patagonia Torrentshell 3L Rain Jacket is your go-to for reliable waterproof protection and all-day comfort. Built with Patagonias H2No Performance Standard 3-layer shell, its lightweight, breathable, and designed to keep you dry through everything from misty mornings to full-blown downpours. The adjustable hood features a laminated visor for extra coverage and can be neatly rolled away when the sun returns. The microfleece-lined neck feels soft against your skin, while the pit zips and storm flaps help you vent heat and block wind when youre on the move. Two roomy handwarmer pockets keep your gear close, and the whole jacket stuffs neatly into its own pocket for easy packing. Made from 100% recycled nylon with a PFAS-free water-repellent finish and sewn in a Fair Trade Certified factory, its a tough, technical jacket made for wet-weather adventures on land or sea. Care Instructions: Machine wash warm. Do not bleach. Tumble dry low. Cool iron.
When the rain rolls in, the Patagonia Torrentshell 3L Rain Jacket is your go-to for reliable waterproof protection and all-day comfort. Built with Patagonias H2No Performance Standard 3-layer shell, its lightweight, breathable, and designed to keep you dry through everything from misty mornings to full-blown downpours. The adjustable hood features a laminated visor for extra coverage and can be neatly rolled away when the sun returns. The microfleece-lined neck feels soft against your skin, while the pit zips and storm flaps help you vent heat and block wind when youre on the move. Two roomy handwarmer pockets keep your gear close, and the whole jacket stuffs neatly into its own pocket for easy packing. Made from 100% recycled nylon with a PFAS-free water-repellent finish and sewn in a Fair Trade Certified factory, its a tough, technical jacket made for wet-weather adventures on land or sea. Care Instructions: Machine wash warm. Do not bleach. Tumble dry low. Cool iron.
When the rain rolls in, the Patagonia Torrentshell 3L Rain Jacket is your go-to for reliable waterproof protection and all-day comfort. Built with Patagonias H2No Performance Standard 3-layer shell, its lightweight, breathable, and designed to keep you dry through everything from misty mornings to full-blown downpours. The adjustable hood features a laminated visor for extra coverage and can be neatly rolled away when the sun returns. The microfleece-lined neck feels soft against your skin, while the pit zips and storm flaps help you vent heat and block wind when youre on the move. Two roomy handwarmer pockets keep your gear close, and the whole jacket stuffs neatly into its own pocket for easy packing. Made from 100% recycled nylon with a PFAS-free water-repellent finish and sewn in a Fair Trade Certified factory, its a tough, technical jacket made for wet-weather adventures on land or sea. Care Instructions: Machine wash warm. Do not bleach. Tumble dry low. Cool iron.
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M's Torrentshell 3L Jkt Tent Green / M | Patagonia
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Patagonia Torrentshell 3L Jacket Medium / NOUVEAU GREEN
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Bought this a year ago and I can't complain, but let me share my experience/tips:1) I don't think it's "breathable" as claimed. I get condensation inside the sleeves when biking, even though I keep the underarm zips open. (So those zips are super-crucial!) What would "non-breathable" mean?2) The black version is a true midnight black, so don't let the pictures fool you into thinking it's faux-black.3) Pair it with a warm fleece full-zip in the same colour and you're good even in the cold. You may even get considerable January/February use out of it. Just don't expect real breathability. After all, it's rain protection.4) A lot of money for a mere shell (alternate brand name: "Paycheck-gone-ia") but It certainly doesn't look or seem cheap either, and I suspect ... MoreBought this a year ago and I can't complain, but let me share my experience/tips:1) I don't think it's "breathable" as claimed. I get condensation inside the sleeves when biking, even though I keep the underarm zips open. (So those zips are super-crucial!) What would "non-breathable" mean?2) The black version is a true midnight black, so don't let the pictures fool you into thinking it's faux-black.3) Pair it with a warm fleece full-zip in the same colour and you're good even in the cold. You may even get considerable January/February use out of it. Just don't expect real breathability. After all, it's rain protection.4) A lot of money for a mere shell (alternate brand name: "Paycheck-gone-ia") but It certainly doesn't look or seem cheap either, and I suspect I'll be wearing this thing 10+ years from now.
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This is my second Torrentshell Rain Jacket. I bought my first about 8-10 years ago, a men's XL Royal Blue one. I still have that jacket. It has served me well for many PNW (Seattle) rainy seasons. Its now delaminating a little in the interior collar, but everything else is fine and it still keeps me dry. It breathes well too. I've never felt clammy in it.I recently picked up a new Torrentshell jacket for several reasons. Ive lost 30-40 pounds since I purchased my first jacket. It was time to downsize. Though a minor issue and the old one continued to kept me dry, the delamination was evident and becoming an appearance issue. Finally, I've recently taken up birdspotting and photography. This activity mostly occurs in the autumn and spring, both rainy periods in the ... MoreThis is my second Torrentshell Rain Jacket. I bought my first about 8-10 years ago, a men's XL Royal Blue one. I still have that jacket. It has served me well for many PNW (Seattle) rainy seasons. Its now delaminating a little in the interior collar, but everything else is fine and it still keeps me dry. It breathes well too. I've never felt clammy in it.I recently picked up a new Torrentshell jacket for several reasons. Ive lost 30-40 pounds since I purchased my first jacket. It was time to downsize. Though a minor issue and the old one continued to kept me dry, the delamination was evident and becoming an appearance issue. Finally, I've recently taken up birdspotting and photography. This activity mostly occurs in the autumn and spring, both rainy periods in the PNW. I wanted a jacket to both keep me dry and blend in with the surroundings when taking photographs. So, I went with a jacket I've previously had good luck with, but this time with a more natural green-gray appearance to suit my uses.The men's large (L) size fits my 6-foot, 175 lb. frame just fine and will easily fit even if I have a wool sweater or fleece jacket underneath. I've always had good luck with Patagonia, in quality, sizing, and fit.
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First things first, this jacket is awesome. I live in Oregon and hike half the year in the rain in this jacket and it keeps me dry. So, here is my challenge to Patagonia. I would LOVE A parody shift to make a jacket just like this that can also be used as a poncho. Meaning, the inside armpits go very low so you can bring your arms inside the jacket and do things like put on or take off a scarf, Do something with your phone, reach up and in and adjust your hood from the inside, look at a watch, open air vents, reach up to wipe off nose with a cloth, put in or pull out AirPods, adjust or clean glasses, etc. Essentially, There is no jacket like this that I can find online, but it is always a challenge to do things like this without taking off the gloves and not getting ... MoreFirst things first, this jacket is awesome. I live in Oregon and hike half the year in the rain in this jacket and it keeps me dry. So, here is my challenge to Patagonia. I would LOVE A parody shift to make a jacket just like this that can also be used as a poncho. Meaning, the inside armpits go very low so you can bring your arms inside the jacket and do things like put on or take off a scarf, Do something with your phone, reach up and in and adjust your hood from the inside, look at a watch, open air vents, reach up to wipe off nose with a cloth, put in or pull out AirPods, adjust or clean glasses, etc. Essentially, There is no jacket like this that I can find online, but it is always a challenge to do things like this without taking off the gloves and not getting hands or clothes wet, Especially during a heavy rain when any amount of exposure time is going to get clothes and self wet. A jacket like this with big pockets inside on the front would allow a hiker to perform lots of tasks without getting hands wet. The sleeves Could also be modifiable so that it can be made to look like a normal jacket when desired, or unclipped/unzipped/unvelcro’d to be more of a poncho as needed. All the aforementioned tasks I wish I could’ve done today during my three hour I the heavy rain, essentially did not do because I did not want to take off my gloves or unzip my jacket.OK, so that’s my challenge to you Patagonia. I love the jacket and actually have two Just in case you discontinue this model. But I am hoping someday you might be able to make something as I have described above with the same materials. Then I’d buy three of them!PaulThanks!Paul
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M's Torrentshell 3L Jkt Tent Green / M | Patagonia
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Patagonia Torrentshell 3L Jacket Medium / NOUVEAU GREEN
Delivery $10
Bought this a year ago and I can't complain, but let me share my experience/tips:1) I don't think it's "breathable" as claimed. I get condensation inside the sleeves when biking, even though I keep the underarm zips open. (So those zips are super-crucial!) What would "non-breathable" mean?2) The black version is a true midnight black, so don't let the pictures fool you into thinking it's faux-black.3) Pair it with a warm fleece full-zip in the same colour and you're good even in the cold. You may even get considerable January/February use out of it. Just don't expect real breathability. After all, it's rain protection.4) A lot of money for a mere shell (alternate brand name: "Paycheck-gone-ia") but It certainly doesn't look or seem cheap either, and I suspect ... MoreBought this a year ago and I can't complain, but let me share my experience/tips:1) I don't think it's "breathable" as claimed. I get condensation inside the sleeves when biking, even though I keep the underarm zips open. (So those zips are super-crucial!) What would "non-breathable" mean?2) The black version is a true midnight black, so don't let the pictures fool you into thinking it's faux-black.3) Pair it with a warm fleece full-zip in the same colour and you're good even in the cold. You may even get considerable January/February use out of it. Just don't expect real breathability. After all, it's rain protection.4) A lot of money for a mere shell (alternate brand name: "Paycheck-gone-ia") but It certainly doesn't look or seem cheap either, and I suspect I'll be wearing this thing 10+ years from now.
This is my second Torrentshell Rain Jacket. I bought my first about 8-10 years ago, a men's XL Royal Blue one. I still have that jacket. It has served me well for many PNW (Seattle) rainy seasons. Its now delaminating a little in the interior collar, but everything else is fine and it still keeps me dry. It breathes well too. I've never felt clammy in it.I recently picked up a new Torrentshell jacket for several reasons. Ive lost 30-40 pounds since I purchased my first jacket. It was time to downsize. Though a minor issue and the old one continued to kept me dry, the delamination was evident and becoming an appearance issue. Finally, I've recently taken up birdspotting and photography. This activity mostly occurs in the autumn and spring, both rainy periods in the ... MoreThis is my second Torrentshell Rain Jacket. I bought my first about 8-10 years ago, a men's XL Royal Blue one. I still have that jacket. It has served me well for many PNW (Seattle) rainy seasons. Its now delaminating a little in the interior collar, but everything else is fine and it still keeps me dry. It breathes well too. I've never felt clammy in it.I recently picked up a new Torrentshell jacket for several reasons. Ive lost 30-40 pounds since I purchased my first jacket. It was time to downsize. Though a minor issue and the old one continued to kept me dry, the delamination was evident and becoming an appearance issue. Finally, I've recently taken up birdspotting and photography. This activity mostly occurs in the autumn and spring, both rainy periods in the PNW. I wanted a jacket to both keep me dry and blend in with the surroundings when taking photographs. So, I went with a jacket I've previously had good luck with, but this time with a more natural green-gray appearance to suit my uses.The men's large (L) size fits my 6-foot, 175 lb. frame just fine and will easily fit even if I have a wool sweater or fleece jacket underneath. I've always had good luck with Patagonia, in quality, sizing, and fit.
First things first, this jacket is awesome. I live in Oregon and hike half the year in the rain in this jacket and it keeps me dry. So, here is my challenge to Patagonia. I would LOVE A parody shift to make a jacket just like this that can also be used as a poncho. Meaning, the inside armpits go very low so you can bring your arms inside the jacket and do things like put on or take off a scarf, Do something with your phone, reach up and in and adjust your hood from the inside, look at a watch, open air vents, reach up to wipe off nose with a cloth, put in or pull out AirPods, adjust or clean glasses, etc. Essentially, There is no jacket like this that I can find online, but it is always a challenge to do things like this without taking off the gloves and not getting ... MoreFirst things first, this jacket is awesome. I live in Oregon and hike half the year in the rain in this jacket and it keeps me dry. So, here is my challenge to Patagonia. I would LOVE A parody shift to make a jacket just like this that can also be used as a poncho. Meaning, the inside armpits go very low so you can bring your arms inside the jacket and do things like put on or take off a scarf, Do something with your phone, reach up and in and adjust your hood from the inside, look at a watch, open air vents, reach up to wipe off nose with a cloth, put in or pull out AirPods, adjust or clean glasses, etc. Essentially, There is no jacket like this that I can find online, but it is always a challenge to do things like this without taking off the gloves and not getting hands or clothes wet, Especially during a heavy rain when any amount of exposure time is going to get clothes and self wet. A jacket like this with big pockets inside on the front would allow a hiker to perform lots of tasks without getting hands wet. The sleeves Could also be modifiable so that it can be made to look like a normal jacket when desired, or unclipped/unzipped/unvelcro’d to be more of a poncho as needed. All the aforementioned tasks I wish I could’ve done today during my three hour I the heavy rain, essentially did not do because I did not want to take off my gloves or unzip my jacket.OK, so that’s my challenge to you Patagonia. I love the jacket and actually have two Just in case you discontinue this model. But I am hoping someday you might be able to make something as I have described above with the same materials. Then I’d buy three of them!PaulThanks!Paul
I bought the product because as a responsible consumer, I wanted to buy from a company that -to some extend- appears more believable when stating the sharing of profits with it's manufacturing process (mostly workers from poor countries) or show care for the environment at the expense of carrying a free marketing sticker on the chest.As a product, the item fits well, is true to size, and comfortable; however, as performance item for the outdoors, this certainly lacks performance.I use the product everytime weather conditions call for (rain). I've owned the product for about 8 months, of which, the piece of clothing has been tested in the outdoors and on the way to work, and the results are disappointing. 20 mins in not so heavy rain, humidity starts to form in the ... MoreI bought the product because as a responsible consumer, I wanted to buy from a company that -to some extend- appears more believable when stating the sharing of profits with it's manufacturing process (mostly workers from poor countries) or show care for the environment at the expense of carrying a free marketing sticker on the chest.As a product, the item fits well, is true to size, and comfortable; however, as performance item for the outdoors, this certainly lacks performance.I use the product everytime weather conditions call for (rain). I've owned the product for about 8 months, of which, the piece of clothing has been tested in the outdoors and on the way to work, and the results are disappointing. 20 mins in not so heavy rain, humidity starts to form in the area of the shoulders and back making clothing underneath feel damp. I thought maybe it was my imagination given that I have not washed the item given its infrequent use. But, a closer look at the interior after using the item in rain conditions, one can see how the area of the shoulders and back turns into a darker grey color, and does not feel dry at all... That means water is seeping through.Overall, I hope some of the profit made from the sale is used for a good cause with the poor artisans, and a note to self is not to wear the item and use an umbrella when it rains.
Bought this jacket a few months ago for working outside. Found it pretty solid for rain overall, but not perfect if you're out in rain for several hours. I've probably worn it less than a dozen times and I'm already questioning if it was worth it, and I say that having had very positive experiences with some other Patagonia products (baggies, capilene cool shirts).Where I have regret and a lot of doubt about the purchase is the pocket situation -- there are no inside or chest pockets, just two side pockets and neither is remotely waterproof.It's baffling as to how/why Patagonia would go to the trouble of trying to make a quality rain jacket/shell with such poor pocket design.I went kayaking in the rain and my phone and wallet were both soaked to the point where ... MoreBought this jacket a few months ago for working outside. Found it pretty solid for rain overall, but not perfect if you're out in rain for several hours. I've probably worn it less than a dozen times and I'm already questioning if it was worth it, and I say that having had very positive experiences with some other Patagonia products (baggies, capilene cool shirts).Where I have regret and a lot of doubt about the purchase is the pocket situation -- there are no inside or chest pockets, just two side pockets and neither is remotely waterproof.It's baffling as to how/why Patagonia would go to the trouble of trying to make a quality rain jacket/shell with such poor pocket design.I went kayaking in the rain and my phone and wallet were both soaked to the point where my phone now needs to be replaced and my torso was starting to get wet because the rain leaked in through the pockets.I'd concede I earned a lot of the blame for completely trusting the jacket and not just ziplock bagging my stuff as I have in the past, but I figured a waterproof Patagonia jacket that I'd only lightly used would be able to handle an hour and a half of rain. Hoping this review saves someone else's phone.If you're looking for a shell for certain activities I think it's fine, but in retrospect I wish I had gotten something else as this will be demoted to a rain jacket I use for errands but not something I can depend on for hours of exposure to rain. Given that I paid more than $220 for the jacket and now hundreds more to sort out my phone situation I'd probably give it a 2.5 star review if that was an option.TL;DR:Pros: like how it folds into itself compactly, it's very lightweight, it breaths well, I've had positive previous experience with Patagonia's repair policy, broadly speaking it endures short'ish periods of rain very well.Cons: jacket zipper is awkward as it is oriented opposite to every other jacket I've owned, the pockets are extremely limited to the point where it compromises the efficacy of the jacket, price is too high based on some of the poor design.
This jacket get stellar reviews on many rain jacket comparison articles I’ve seen on the internet. I went to the store to check it out and compare it to other available jackets in the category. I felt like this one offered a great price to performance ratio. The cheaper ones were 2.5 layer waterproof fabric vs the full 3 layer this jacket offered, and felt flimsier. Having had a cheaper jacket before they function reasonably well in light rain but tend to wet out easier in sustained or heavy rain. They cheaper ones are also usually lighter and more packable so are probably good for casual use or light hikes but I wanted something more substantial. Compared to the more expensive competition fabric is stiffer and doesn’t pack down quite as well, doesn’t have a chest ... MoreThis jacket get stellar reviews on many rain jacket comparison articles I’ve seen on the internet. I went to the store to check it out and compare it to other available jackets in the category. I felt like this one offered a great price to performance ratio. The cheaper ones were 2.5 layer waterproof fabric vs the full 3 layer this jacket offered, and felt flimsier. Having had a cheaper jacket before they function reasonably well in light rain but tend to wet out easier in sustained or heavy rain. They cheaper ones are also usually lighter and more packable so are probably good for casual use or light hikes but I wanted something more substantial. Compared to the more expensive competition fabric is stiffer and doesn’t pack down quite as well, doesn’t have a chest pocket, and doesn’t looks quite as “technicool”, but it wasn’t worth it to me to pay 2-3 times the price. I wore it around town and during some light hikes on Orcas Island in some light rain and it worked well. In conclusion, this jacket has high end performance at a reasonable price, minus some small bells and whistles.
Pros:-Great value for money-3L construction is infinitely better and more durable than older 2L or 2.5L-Regular fit is true to size with room to layer. I'm 5'6''/150lbs/37'' chest, 32'' waist and am usually a Small or Medium. I ordered both the Small and Medium is this jacket and kept the Small.Cons:-I have no idea why they keep the triple storm flap construction. The inside flap I understand, the double outside flaps are just dumb and I can only assume that it's cheaper than getting rid of them in favor of a waterproof zipper. As it is, the construction prevents the top of the collar to lay flat, ie getting the zipper under the zipper garage is a p.i.t.a. You realize it's a poor design when they have to make a cutout at the top of the interior stormflap ... MorePros:-Great value for money-3L construction is infinitely better and more durable than older 2L or 2.5L-Regular fit is true to size with room to layer. I'm 5'6''/150lbs/37'' chest, 32'' waist and am usually a Small or Medium. I ordered both the Small and Medium is this jacket and kept the Small.Cons:-I have no idea why they keep the triple storm flap construction. The inside flap I understand, the double outside flaps are just dumb and I can only assume that it's cheaper than getting rid of them in favor of a waterproof zipper. As it is, the construction prevents the top of the collar to lay flat, ie getting the zipper under the zipper garage is a p.i.t.a. You realize it's a poor design when they have to make a cutout at the top of the interior stormflap because of the bulge of material up there.-Zipped chest pocket (inside or outside) would have been nice.-Poor color options: current selection is rather drab. I considered the Wax Red and Lagom Blue but there's something off about those colors so I went with Sage Khaki.
My husband and I bought the new Torrentshell 3L rain jackets a few months ago. Initially, the jackets repelled water well, with the water beading up on the surface. However, we recently wore them daily during a two-week kayaking trip in rainy and windy conditions, where they were occasionally splashed with ocean water. I wanted to clean the saltwater off when we returned.This is my second Torrentshell 3L jacket; I returned the first one because it lost its water repellency after a single wash. Given this experience, I was hesitant to follow the care instructions inside the jacket, which recommend frequent washing. Instead of using the washing machine, I opted to rinse off the saltwater with a cold shower and let the jackets drip dry.Today, we went for a walk in ... MoreMy husband and I bought the new Torrentshell 3L rain jackets a few months ago. Initially, the jackets repelled water well, with the water beading up on the surface. However, we recently wore them daily during a two-week kayaking trip in rainy and windy conditions, where they were occasionally splashed with ocean water. I wanted to clean the saltwater off when we returned.This is my second Torrentshell 3L jacket; I returned the first one because it lost its water repellency after a single wash. Given this experience, I was hesitant to follow the care instructions inside the jacket, which recommend frequent washing. Instead of using the washing machine, I opted to rinse off the saltwater with a cold shower and let the jackets drip dry.Today, we went for a walk in the rain and were disappointed to find that the jackets no longer repelled water. Instead, the water soaked into the fabric, making the inside of the jackets feel damp. Once again, I am dealing with a relatively new jacket (just a couple of months old) that has lost its water repellency and needs treatment.I searched the Q&A section but couldn’t find clear step-by-step instructions or clear recommendations on which products to use for these jackets. It's unclear whether washing with a tech wash product and then using a dryer is sufficient, or if a water repellency treatment needs to be reapplied-- in our case after every paddle trip.It would also be helpful to inform customers that these jackets may not be suitable as a rainshell near/on the ocean.
Finally a real waterproof jacket, after a few disappointments with other brands. One recent failure: I bought an OR Foray Goretex jacket which was supposed to be waterproof. But when I went out in even a light-medium rain, the jacket soaked through within a few minutes. The claim of "waterproof" was a farce. I have relegated the Foray to a snow-boarding jacket where it does well. I feared a similar experience with this Patagonia Torrentshell. However, after an hour-long walk in heavy rain, I was dry. The water beads and rolls off of it. The one comment I have is that the visor did not keep out the rain as much as I would have liked and my face got wet. I tried adjusting the tension on the elastic threaded through the hood, but still, a wet face. Not a major issue, ... MoreFinally a real waterproof jacket, after a few disappointments with other brands. One recent failure: I bought an OR Foray Goretex jacket which was supposed to be waterproof. But when I went out in even a light-medium rain, the jacket soaked through within a few minutes. The claim of "waterproof" was a farce. I have relegated the Foray to a snow-boarding jacket where it does well. I feared a similar experience with this Patagonia Torrentshell. However, after an hour-long walk in heavy rain, I was dry. The water beads and rolls off of it. The one comment I have is that the visor did not keep out the rain as much as I would have liked and my face got wet. I tried adjusting the tension on the elastic threaded through the hood, but still, a wet face. Not a major issue, and not an unexpected result when walking in a storm.
I bought this jacket yesterday and tried it out that same day in some snow and wind in near-freezing temperatures the same day (so at lower elevations the snow was melting as it hit my jacket). It kept me dry, and the fit was good over a fleece. I had high hopes for the three-layer design, protecting the waterproof/breathable layer (which has shredded on the two Marmot PreCips that served me over the past 20 years).But. The hood. Deal breaker. First, there's a toggle on the back of the hood that digs into my head while the hood is up. I get that it's more secure than the velcro the PreCip had, but it _digs into my head_. It was constantly annoying. Patagonia customer support says there's no non-destructive way to remove the toggle, and the jacket won't work right ... MoreI bought this jacket yesterday and tried it out that same day in some snow and wind in near-freezing temperatures the same day (so at lower elevations the snow was melting as it hit my jacket). It kept me dry, and the fit was good over a fleece. I had high hopes for the three-layer design, protecting the waterproof/breathable layer (which has shredded on the two Marmot PreCips that served me over the past 20 years).But. The hood. Deal breaker. First, there's a toggle on the back of the hood that digs into my head while the hood is up. I get that it's more secure than the velcro the PreCip had, but it _digs into my head_. It was constantly annoying. Patagonia customer support says there's no non-destructive way to remove the toggle, and the jacket won't work right without it.Second, the hood is very small. If we'd been out of the trees and truly in the blowing snow, it would have done little to protect my face from the wind. And it wasn't big enough to comfortably fit over a winter hat. (I put it over anyway, because I had to, but that pulled the jacket up in a somewhat uncomfortable way. I have no idea how another reviewer got this over a climbing helmet.)So I don't know how it performs in driving rain, but I'm going to have to return an otherwise-promising jacket just because of the hood. (However, I also didn't like how the pit zips had two little zippers. I might get used to it with time, but it made it very fiddly to adjust them with even medium weight gloves on.)
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