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I decided to take the EP4 on a 38-mile run on 04/27/2024 (strava.com/athletes/59684519). I did not plan running that distance nor was I "feelin' it" that day, but decided to push through it anyhow, as it was my personal goal to run 38 miles before turning 39 this year -and I was already over 20 miles at the point of my decision. I'm fairly new to running and really just got into it beginning of 2023. These shoes were quite impressive in my opinion, as they remained stable and overall comfortable for long-distance runs. I've got some wide feet and the uppers on these shoes allow my feet to have enough room, so I did not experience any blistering. I'd obviously prefer a little wider shoes, but I knew these shoes were regular/m fit, so that's on me. My body was fairly ... MoreI decided to take the EP4 on a 38-mile run on 04/27/2024 (strava.com/athletes/59684519). I did not plan running that distance nor was I "feelin' it" that day, but decided to push through it anyhow, as it was my personal goal to run 38 miles before turning 39 this year -and I was already over 20 miles at the point of my decision. I'm fairly new to running and really just got into it beginning of 2023. These shoes were quite impressive in my opinion, as they remained stable and overall comfortable for long-distance runs. I've got some wide feet and the uppers on these shoes allow my feet to have enough room, so I did not experience any blistering. I'd obviously prefer a little wider shoes, but I knew these shoes were regular/m fit, so that's on me. My body was fairly sore after the 38-mile run, but my feet actually felt alright, so I would highly recommend these shoes for long-distance running. I wouldn't necessarily call these the fastest shoes or anything like that and would instead recommend the Endorphin Elite if speed is what people are after, but the EP4 shoes are rather versatile from recovery runs to tempo runs, shorter runs and certainly long-distance running.
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I’m a 26 year fan of Saucony. I’ve been running in these shoes since 1998, when I got my first pair of ProGrid Flex which were amazing. And I am a fan of the Endorphin series, especially the Pros which I switched to after Hurricanes were discontinued. There were some fit issues with the 2 and 3, very narrow and punchy on the pinky toes, which have been improved in the 4– although I still size up a half size to make room for my toes. The 4 also improved the quality of the upper, which is now stronger and tougher, where my big toe would break through the top after a few months hard use in the Pro 3. However I can’t give the Pro 4 all 5 stars because something is off with the fit around the ankle/top of the instep. The older models came up a little higher, and lacing ... MoreI’m a 26 year fan of Saucony. I’ve been running in these shoes since 1998, when I got my first pair of ProGrid Flex which were amazing. And I am a fan of the Endorphin series, especially the Pros which I switched to after Hurricanes were discontinued. There were some fit issues with the 2 and 3, very narrow and punchy on the pinky toes, which have been improved in the 4– although I still size up a half size to make room for my toes. The 4 also improved the quality of the upper, which is now stronger and tougher, where my big toe would break through the top after a few months hard use in the Pro 3. However I can’t give the Pro 4 all 5 stars because something is off with the fit around the ankle/top of the instep. The older models came up a little higher, and lacing in tight provided a touch of stability welcome to those of us with a high instep. The 4 is cut lower, and has a tongue designed to fold over the laces for some reason, and this creates less stability around the whole top of the shoe. I hope Saucony will improve this in the Pro 5! The rest of the shoe is a bit longer and more spacious than the earlier models. The sole and carbon plate continue to provide cushy spring with every step, which my Middle Aged bones, joints and tendons appreciate very much! And for anyone else having the same issues with the fit at the top of the instep/ankle: if you use the extra set of lacing holes as well, it will help a little. It leaves your laces silly short, but your feet will lock in the heel better!
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Excellent shoes, reinforced forefoot of the shoe Discourages, heel striking, the Speed roll Technology does wonders for The natural pronation of my feet. The slightly stretchy shoelaces encourage a tight fit that really feels cinches down on my feet and they don’t come untied. The tongue that folds over the knot of the shoelaces ensures that the tongue and the top of the shoe doesn’t work down during my run. These shoes are wonderful. I have already put 27 miles on them. The first 5K I ran was a new personal best by three minutes. I have used these shoes for gravel trail running, and treadmill running. Running in these as my race shoes compared to every day running shoes The run is effortless. Fitts true to size worth every penny. 10 out of 10 recommend
I decided to take the EP4 on a 38-mile run on 04/27/2024 (strava.com/athletes/59684519). I did not plan running that distance nor was I "feelin' it" that day, but decided to push through it anyhow, as it was my personal goal to run 38 miles before turning 39 this year -and I was already over 20 miles at the point of my decision. I'm fairly new to running and really just got into it beginning of 2023. These shoes were quite impressive in my opinion, as they remained stable and overall comfortable for long-distance runs. I've got some wide feet and the uppers on these shoes allow my feet to have enough room, so I did not experience any blistering. I'd obviously prefer a little wider shoes, but I knew these shoes were regular/m fit, so that's on me. My body was fairly ... MoreI decided to take the EP4 on a 38-mile run on 04/27/2024 (strava.com/athletes/59684519). I did not plan running that distance nor was I "feelin' it" that day, but decided to push through it anyhow, as it was my personal goal to run 38 miles before turning 39 this year -and I was already over 20 miles at the point of my decision. I'm fairly new to running and really just got into it beginning of 2023. These shoes were quite impressive in my opinion, as they remained stable and overall comfortable for long-distance runs. I've got some wide feet and the uppers on these shoes allow my feet to have enough room, so I did not experience any blistering. I'd obviously prefer a little wider shoes, but I knew these shoes were regular/m fit, so that's on me. My body was fairly sore after the 38-mile run, but my feet actually felt alright, so I would highly recommend these shoes for long-distance running. I wouldn't necessarily call these the fastest shoes or anything like that and would instead recommend the Endorphin Elite if speed is what people are after, but the EP4 shoes are rather versatile from recovery runs to tempo runs, shorter runs and certainly long-distance running.
I’m a 26 year fan of Saucony. I’ve been running in these shoes since 1998, when I got my first pair of ProGrid Flex which were amazing. And I am a fan of the Endorphin series, especially the Pros which I switched to after Hurricanes were discontinued. There were some fit issues with the 2 and 3, very narrow and punchy on the pinky toes, which have been improved in the 4– although I still size up a half size to make room for my toes. The 4 also improved the quality of the upper, which is now stronger and tougher, where my big toe would break through the top after a few months hard use in the Pro 3. However I can’t give the Pro 4 all 5 stars because something is off with the fit around the ankle/top of the instep. The older models came up a little higher, and lacing ... MoreI’m a 26 year fan of Saucony. I’ve been running in these shoes since 1998, when I got my first pair of ProGrid Flex which were amazing. And I am a fan of the Endorphin series, especially the Pros which I switched to after Hurricanes were discontinued. There were some fit issues with the 2 and 3, very narrow and punchy on the pinky toes, which have been improved in the 4– although I still size up a half size to make room for my toes. The 4 also improved the quality of the upper, which is now stronger and tougher, where my big toe would break through the top after a few months hard use in the Pro 3. However I can’t give the Pro 4 all 5 stars because something is off with the fit around the ankle/top of the instep. The older models came up a little higher, and lacing in tight provided a touch of stability welcome to those of us with a high instep. The 4 is cut lower, and has a tongue designed to fold over the laces for some reason, and this creates less stability around the whole top of the shoe. I hope Saucony will improve this in the Pro 5! The rest of the shoe is a bit longer and more spacious than the earlier models. The sole and carbon plate continue to provide cushy spring with every step, which my Middle Aged bones, joints and tendons appreciate very much! And for anyone else having the same issues with the fit at the top of the instep/ankle: if you use the extra set of lacing holes as well, it will help a little. It leaves your laces silly short, but your feet will lock in the heel better!
Excellent shoes, reinforced forefoot of the shoe Discourages, heel striking, the Speed roll Technology does wonders for The natural pronation of my feet. The slightly stretchy shoelaces encourage a tight fit that really feels cinches down on my feet and they don’t come untied. The tongue that folds over the knot of the shoelaces ensures that the tongue and the top of the shoe doesn’t work down during my run. These shoes are wonderful. I have already put 27 miles on them. The first 5K I ran was a new personal best by three minutes. I have used these shoes for gravel trail running, and treadmill running. Running in these as my race shoes compared to every day running shoes The run is effortless. Fitts true to size worth every penny. 10 out of 10 recommend
I purchased this color way of the Endorphin Pro 4 because I had a defect with my black/orange color way. Let me first give Saucony props because their “defect policy” was hassle free. All I had to do was show a picture of my defect of the show & provide a receipt. From there they provided me gift card to whereas I was able to purchase this neon volt color way.Now to the performance. I’ve been choosing to run in Saucony since 2022. Whether it’s a marathon/half marathon/10k or training they are my preferable shoe choice. I shoot more so for speed so the weight of the shoe is very beneficial to me. I’m also what runners would classify as a “toe striker” and the transference of force is practically unnoticeable when running in the Endorphins (speed or Pro). Truly love ... MoreI purchased this color way of the Endorphin Pro 4 because I had a defect with my black/orange color way. Let me first give Saucony props because their “defect policy” was hassle free. All I had to do was show a picture of my defect of the show & provide a receipt. From there they provided me gift card to whereas I was able to purchase this neon volt color way.Now to the performance. I’ve been choosing to run in Saucony since 2022. Whether it’s a marathon/half marathon/10k or training they are my preferable shoe choice. I shoot more so for speed so the weight of the shoe is very beneficial to me. I’m also what runners would classify as a “toe striker” and the transference of force is practically unnoticeable when running in the Endorphins (speed or Pro). Truly love this brand.
In the past I have used the original pro's, pro 3 and now pro 4. The original pros were a good shoe but very firm. Don't know about the 2's. Absolutely loved the pro 3's....had that balance of squish and pop. You could take it out for some easy runs and then for speedwork..... it felt so comfortable but fast as well. The 4's are good a good shoe. I like the slipper type fit and they are fast. They remind me a lot of the original pros in the fact that they are very firm. I would never use these for a marathon because they lack the cushioning that you need in the second half of the race. I don't plan on using these for a race but if I did, I would use them up to half marathon distance. If you like a firm shoe and like to feel the ground....this shoe is for you. If you ... MoreIn the past I have used the original pro's, pro 3 and now pro 4. The original pros were a good shoe but very firm. Don't know about the 2's. Absolutely loved the pro 3's....had that balance of squish and pop. You could take it out for some easy runs and then for speedwork..... it felt so comfortable but fast as well. The 4's are good a good shoe. I like the slipper type fit and they are fast. They remind me a lot of the original pros in the fact that they are very firm. I would never use these for a marathon because they lack the cushioning that you need in the second half of the race. I don't plan on using these for a race but if I did, I would use them up to half marathon distance. If you like a firm shoe and like to feel the ground....this shoe is for you. If you liked the pro 3's and were expecting the same from the 4's.....look elsewhere. Not sure why Saucony would take the cushioning feeling out of the 4's but if this continues to be the trend for the pros....I will look elsewhere for a plated speed shoe.
I've become a huge Saucony fan the last few years, and I went through 5+ pairs of EP3. The EP3 was a great show, and the only minor complaint was the tongue being too short.The EP4 has a longer tongue with a cool foldover feature. But the tongue is attached, so when the laces are tight, it folds over itself. It's not uncomfortable, but it does require a bit of manual adjustment every time I put on the shoes. The stretchy upper and laces also require tightening a bit more than you would thing, but the fit is great once you get it dialed in.Performance-wise, the EP4 have the best stability and comfort of the many super shoes I've tried. I put nearly all of my miles on these shoes, and they work well for everything from recovery runs to fast intervals.However, ... MoreI've become a huge Saucony fan the last few years, and I went through 5+ pairs of EP3. The EP3 was a great show, and the only minor complaint was the tongue being too short.The EP4 has a longer tongue with a cool foldover feature. But the tongue is attached, so when the laces are tight, it folds over itself. It's not uncomfortable, but it does require a bit of manual adjustment every time I put on the shoes. The stretchy upper and laces also require tightening a bit more than you would thing, but the fit is great once you get it dialed in.Performance-wise, the EP4 have the best stability and comfort of the many super shoes I've tried. I put nearly all of my miles on these shoes, and they work well for everything from recovery runs to fast intervals.However, while these shoes are great for going fast, on race day other shoes will give you a bit more performance.
I am so excited that I tried this shoe. I'm normally an "Endorphin Speed" girl, but I liked the previous model more than the newest model. I was hesitant to try the new Pros because I didn't love the Pro 3's.The tongue drove me nuts. It got sucked back into the shoe less than a minute after I put the shoe on...even before I started running. It made them very uncomfortable. They completely fixed this issue in the Pro 4. It is absolutely my new favorite running shoe. I love it so much that, even though it's more expensive, I'll probably use it for my everyday training runs (in addition to speed and race days). It's super springy & surprisingly comfortable. I didn't think about my feet at all during my 5 mile run yesterday.
The ride is great, but my second run in these resulted in a painful bruise atop my foot that required me to stop running for several days just as I was prepping for a race. In fairness, I had used an orthotic that may not have worked well in combination with this shoe. After removing the orthotic and getting creative with lacing, I am now running in the shoe again, pain free. However, for my narrow foot, the Pro 3 was a better, sleeker fit. The Pro 4 by comparison feels too bulky with excess material that bunches up the tongue when you cinch up the laces, and I’ve spent a lot of time trying to get the Pro 4 snug but not constrictive. In my size 12.5 the Pro 4 is a half ounce heavier than the 3, and the difference is noticeable in a bad way, slowing my turnover. I ... MoreThe ride is great, but my second run in these resulted in a painful bruise atop my foot that required me to stop running for several days just as I was prepping for a race. In fairness, I had used an orthotic that may not have worked well in combination with this shoe. After removing the orthotic and getting creative with lacing, I am now running in the shoe again, pain free. However, for my narrow foot, the Pro 3 was a better, sleeker fit. The Pro 4 by comparison feels too bulky with excess material that bunches up the tongue when you cinch up the laces, and I’ve spent a lot of time trying to get the Pro 4 snug but not constrictive. In my size 12.5 the Pro 4 is a half ounce heavier than the 3, and the difference is noticeable in a bad way, slowing my turnover. I appreciate the effort to stop the tongue from sliding back down into the shoe like it does on the Pro 3, but we’ve just exchanged one problem for another while adding unnecessary weight, all for $225 plus tax and shipping. These shoes have great tech under foot and could be amazing if subsequent versions offer a more comfortable, simpler, weight-efficient lockdown. Thank you, Saucony, for continuing to innovate and push the envelope. Keep at it.
The shoes are good but they feel different than the P3 version.Personally, the shoe is a little narrow in the front, I would have liked them to use the same typeof Elite more open in the part of the fingers.The sensation at the 3:30 mpk pace is good but there is still something missing in energy return.The number was a little big on me, 11.5 compared to the previous one, but with some thick socks it was solved.I think it is a good shoe but it is not at the level of an asics sky+ or sky+ paris.I use them for training all week with an average of 100k, they feel good on training days of 30k or more.but I would have liked itReduce weight.More energy return.More stability in the front of the foot.
initially I gave them a 5, I bought them day 1 when they had the black & red ones. After wearing them about 5 time I noticed the red paint coming off the bottom. I figured it's just wear and tear but then more and more started coming off so that caused not to wear them as much. After wearing them about 20 times there is a small hole in the toe area and this shouldn't be. I'm a runner and I have brooks and hokas that I've owned much longer that barely show wear but these $225 shoes that I've owned a quarter of the time of my other shoes are already tearing. This is poor quality. These are fantastic running shoes, in fact my favorite running shoes and I understand they're super shoes but they should hold up better than this. Any runner knows once a tear starts in the ... Moreinitially I gave them a 5, I bought them day 1 when they had the black & red ones. After wearing them about 5 time I noticed the red paint coming off the bottom. I figured it's just wear and tear but then more and more started coming off so that caused not to wear them as much. After wearing them about 20 times there is a small hole in the toe area and this shouldn't be. I'm a runner and I have brooks and hokas that I've owned much longer that barely show wear but these $225 shoes that I've owned a quarter of the time of my other shoes are already tearing. This is poor quality. These are fantastic running shoes, in fact my favorite running shoes and I understand they're super shoes but they should hold up better than this. Any runner knows once a tear starts in the toe are eventually your whole toe will come through. And I keep my nails trimmed so this shouldn't have happened.
Unleash your potential with the Saucony Endorphin Pro 4, your ultimate racing companion. This iteration boasts a reinvented dual-cushioning system, merging PWRRUN HG and PWRRUN PB foam for a new level of responsiveness and smooth transitions. This combined with the return of Speedroll technology and a full length carbon fibre plate ensures maximum efficiency for superior performance. The Endorphin Pro 4 has redesigned upper system.
Unleash your potential with the Saucony Endorphin Pro 4, your ultimate racing companion. This iteration boasts a reinvented dual-cushioning system, merging PWRRUN HG and PWRRUN PB foam for a new level of responsiveness and smooth transitions. This combined with the return of Speedroll technology and a full length carbon fibre plate ensures maximum efficiency for superior performance. The Endorphin Pro 4 has redesigned upper system.
Unleash your potential with the Saucony Endorphin Pro 4, your ultimate racing companion. This iteration boasts a reinvented dual-cushioning system, merging PWRRUN HG and PWRRUN PB foam for a new level of responsiveness and smooth transitions. This combined with the return of Speedroll technology and a full length carbon fibre plate ensures maximum efficiency for superior performance. The Endorphin Pro 4 has redesigned upper system.
Unleash your potential with the Saucony Endorphin Pro 4, your ultimate racing companion. This iteration boasts a reinvented dual-cushioning system, merging PWRRUN HG and PWRRUN PB foam for a new level of responsiveness and smooth transitions. This combined with the return of Speedroll technology and a full length carbon fibre plate ensures maximum efficiency for superior performance. The Endorphin Pro 4 has redesigned upper system.
